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Thread: clutch master cylinder failed?

  1. #21
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    You say you adjusted the bias until the rear stopped locking up. Am I to assume that the fronts now lock first? If so, where is the balance bar set in relationship to the master cylinders and brake pedal? Is it roughly centered or....... measurements will be handy. Make sure that the bar is perpendicular to the pushrods when the pedal is fully depressed, that the master cylinders can fully return and that there is no binding throughout the travel.
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    No, the front end does not lock up, it just nosedives!
    I threaded the rod in the bias bar towards the front MC, I would say there is about twice as much threads showing on that side. I presently have no fluid in the rear MC so I can't do as you requested
    Dave
    93 Unique Motorcars 427 SC, 428PI with CJ heads, toploader 4 spd,jag rear with 354 gears, Red with white stripes.

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    I got tired of crawling into the foot box to adjust the brake bias, so I installed one of these - http://www.wilwood.com/Products/005-...RBBA/index.asp A Remote Brake Bias Adjuster. Kind of like a quick change rear-end - works like a charm
    Phil

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  4. #24
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    Phil,

    I am going to order one for my FIA Roadster as I too am tired of trying to fit my "large body" into that tiny foot well to make adjustments! I've always had a brake bias adjustment in the cockpit on my other Cobras and race cars over the years but they were the "in line" variety with a tandem master cylinder rather than a dual cylinder balance bar set up.

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    Terry
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    Yeah, that is pretty neat...what was the cost?
    Dave
    93 Unique Motorcars 427 SC, 428PI with CJ heads, toploader 4 spd,jag rear with 354 gears, Red with white stripes.

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    $60, although it's been 4-years so the price has probably changed. What ever increase has occurred - it is worth it.
    Phil

    427 Roadster, #4279436
    FE Specialties FE
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    Roseville (N.Cal)

  7. #27
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    Thanks a lot
    Dave
    93 Unique Motorcars 427 SC, 428PI with CJ heads, toploader 4 spd,jag rear with 354 gears, Red with white stripes.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcolley View Post
    I've always had a brake bias adjustment in the cockpit on my other Cobras and race cars over the years but they were the "in line" variety with a tandem master cylinder rather than a dual cylinder balance bar set up.
    my car came with an "in line" type adjuster. I plan to use it again, any Pros or Cons out there?
    Last edited by RJacobsen; April 25th, 2008 at 10:16 AM.
    Rod
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  9. #29
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    I think all you can do with that type adjuster is change the fluid pressure to either the front or rear brakes, which ever line you install it on, it is not a bias adjuster.

    Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by weaver View Post
    I think all you can do with that type adjuster is change the fluid pressure to either the front or rear brakes, which ever line you install it on, it is not a bias adjuster.

    Alan
    Wouldn't the end result be the same?
    Rod
    Roseville, Ca.
    289 FIA #9152 "The Flintstone Cobra"

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJacobsen View Post
    Wouldn't the end result be the same?
    Yes - result is the same. Lower pressure on the caliper pistons generates less force on the pads. Adjustable proportioning valves (like this) are used a lot on cars with "regular" tandem master cylinders - i.e. where you don't have a balance bar.
    Zach Butterworth
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepSnake View Post
    Geez - this doesn't translate into print very well.
    I disagree... great job!
    Paul

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