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**juanone** · July 14th, 2005, 11:49 AM

Just thought you guys might enjoy this photo sent to me by Rick Bagley.

Juan Lopez-Bonilla
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**JerryBP** · July 14th, 2005, 12:01 PM

Makes you wonder why so many militaty pilots die in "Training Accidents".

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**eliminator** · July 14th, 2005, 12:08 PM

I think it's cool.......these guy's are the best of the best

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I was fortunate to be around some of the Marine F-18 Hornet guys at LaMoore in CA. Yes, they are a little Cocky but they take their skills very seriously and you feel good knowing they are on our side[^].

These are our Cobra owners of the Future

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Rick
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**gasman** · July 14th, 2005, 12:12 PM

Adobe Photoshop is a great program....

Steve Foushee
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**eliminator** · July 14th, 2005, 12:42 PM

Sorry Gasman, but this is the real deal.......steak dinner??

Rick
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**will butterworth** · July 14th, 2005, 01:10 PM

yep,this is wthe real deal, seen this picture several times from fellas in service, Brent you were saying the driver of the little car had a set of cahoonas in thee video, and these fellas are highstrung and cocky, I always wanted to jocky this bird, f-18, 16, 15, 14, pull throttle down and bendit over.Will-alabama

**gasman** · July 14th, 2005, 01:35 PM

Sure Rick, I'll take that bet.

Steve Foushee
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An airplane in a 90 degree bank, has no lift what so ever. At that altitude the pilot would need full after burners engaged, the sink rate would still be pretty high. If the after burners were engaged, this thing would look like a blast furnace going by. Another problem with the photo, the plane also is a little large for the surroundings. Not quite to scale. But is is a nice piece of work.

**nolastyankee** · July 14th, 2005, 03:09 PM

I'm as skeptical as they come, but this one has some validity to it that only a pilot would truly understand... The detail of the picture suggests water on the lenscap of the camera, which would suggest high humidity and explain the pressure vortices just aft of the intakes. The angle of attack appears correct for this maneuver as does the scale of the pilots to the people on deck. If the pilot just rolled it up on edge for the photo the speed wouldn't need to be as great. I think I'm in the camp of "it's real".

Although if it's photoshop, it's a hell of a job. And remember, real isn't always better.

Brian Carlson

Unique 9122 - 289 FIA Cobra - The Legendary "Spence" Car

**clayfoushee** · July 14th, 2005, 03:23 PM

I'm doubting the authenticity too. Not only would those bodies on deck be flat on the deck, the crew would have gotten much more than 30 days off. Court-martial and dishonorable discharge would have been more likely. If real and at that speed, that close to the deck, they endangered the entire ship.

Cool picture though!!!!

Clay

'98 Unique #9299, 427FE side oiler (452.1-stroker), top-loader (close), 3.31 rear

Annapolis, MD

**clayfoushee** · July 14th, 2005, 03:30 PM

The water vaporizing off the leading edge of the left wing canard, suggests a high-speed, high-G maneuver. It is close to the right scale.....if you look at the bodies standing on deck and the heads of crew. The F-14 Tomcat is a very large airplane.

Clay

'98 Unique #9299, 427FE side oiler (452.1-stroker), top-loader (close), 3.31 rear

Annapolis, MD

**daveg** · July 14th, 2005, 04:53 PM

My vote is fake. Urban Legends tends to make me disbelieve anything that looks too good and hasn't been in any newspaper. Perfectly framed plane - spectators that aren't afraid of their lives....

Here is another one that made the email, urban legend path....

**gasman** · July 14th, 2005, 06:20 PM

We can settle this one pretty easily. My next door neighbor is in the reserves and returning from Annapolis tonight. He spent the last 13 years flying this very airplane off every carrier deck in the fleet and bombed most of Iraq in D.S. If he says the picture is real, I owe Rick a steak dinner and he would definately know.

Steve Foushee
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**jhaynie** · July 15th, 2005, 06:14 AM

Well they are obviously all taking a look at something! And what else would the camera man be taking a picture of at that angle? Of course I've been to a couple of Blue Angel shows and I can't imagine being able to get that clean of a shot of the plane going by from that close a proximity.

I'm on the fence (its safer here) :-).

John

Unique 289FIA #9367
351W Fuel Injected

**clayfoushee** · July 15th, 2005, 06:29 AM

Perhaps a fly-by at a proper distance (covered up by the Photoshop paste)?

Clay

'98 Unique #9299, 427FE side oiler (452.1-stroker), top-loader (close), 3.31 rear

Annapolis, MD

**will butterworth** · July 15th, 2005, 06:56 AM

Rick--I have met in executive session with my dog, Professor Vernon Von Studebaker, in service to the gobernment, and the conclusion is -if you look close behind the second helmet to the lower side of the canopy it is plainly written Chevrolet, body by fisher,the professor was incognito at the time puffing a havana stogy wearing a sombrero.Will-alabama

**gasman** · July 15th, 2005, 08:55 AM

Rick, Just got off the phone with my neighbor who immediately stated "Oh, this forgery is going around again? I've seen this picture a hundred times. The Tomcat isn't this large, the proportions are way off. The carrier deck is 60 feet off the water plus, even if it were real, the after burners would be visable beyond the photo borders." This is the quote from a Major still qualified to fly these birds and on his way to serve our country in the reserves this weekend. If anyone would know, it would be him.

I can almost taste that ribeye!

Steve Foushee
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**nolastyankee** · July 15th, 2005, 02:41 PM

Looks like I'll be chipping in!

Brian Carlson

Unique 9122 - 289 FIA Cobra - The Legendary "Spence" Car

**eliminator** · July 18th, 2005, 05:35 AM

Not so fast my friend, I have asked my nephew for his opinion, he is a ex- F-18 guy who is a Captain with Jet Blue. Also he has a friend who was on this carrier at the time of the photo, F-14 pilot. So we will see.

Rick
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**will butterworth** · July 18th, 2005, 08:31 AM

I shall withhold further comment at this point, as it will not be necessary for further executive sessions with the professor Vernon Von Studebaker , about this aeroplane.However, i smell steak, one way or the other, applehouse-pigeon forge .Will-alabama

**Brent** · July 18th, 2005, 08:49 AM

The best way to settle this is in the cars.

Blue 427 S/O
Red 427 S/O

Pigeon Forge, side by side, first one out of the tunnel eats for free.

Brent
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