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July 22nd, 2005, 01:50 PM
#1
juanone 289 carbuild 17
The top and carpeting go in. It is really, really close now.
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 22nd, 2005, 04:27 PM
#2
Good Juan, they didn't cover the cup holder with the carpet ! Soooooooooo close... you have got to be droolin' now [:P][:P]
Paul
289 FIA
2899464
408 Windsor
Toploader (wide)
3.07 rear
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July 22nd, 2005, 04:36 PM
#3
Paul:
It is soooo close. I am drooling all over myself. This is almost beyond my control.
Will post the finish pictures as soon as Alan is done.
Juan
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 23rd, 2005, 04:39 AM
#4
Is that the 1900 top from Unique? How do they work? Are the windows glass or plexi?
Mike
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July 23rd, 2005, 09:28 AM
#5
Mike:
The windows are plexiglass.
Juan
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 23rd, 2005, 06:47 PM
#6
Mike, the top doesn't fold back if that is what you are asking. It is either on or off. The support frame is something you could leave in place if you wanted. The top will fold up and fit in the trunk.
Steve Foushee
Unique #4279389
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July 23rd, 2005, 09:41 PM
#7
Lookin' good Juan -- having a hard time sleeping??
See you soon
Ralph
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July 24th, 2005, 05:30 AM
#8
Hi Ralph:
Yes, I am having a hard time waiting until next Sunday. Rick and I will be heading down to pick it up then at Butch Capp's place.
I am looking forward to seeing it and sharing it with all of you. Sorry I will not be able to go to Pigeon Forge, my daughter is getting married that weekend.
See you next time you are near Louisville.
Juan
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 24th, 2005, 10:55 AM
#9
Juan,
Why is it going to Butch's, or is it just for convenience [?]
Paul
289 FIA
2899464
408 Windsor
Toploader (wide)
3.07 rear
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July 24th, 2005, 01:18 PM
#10
Paul:
Butch is picking the car up at Unique because he is the dealer I purchased the car through. We are meeting him half way.
Juan
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 24th, 2005, 08:43 PM
#11
OK, that makes sense. Will you have temporary wheels/tires or are you putting the FIA knock-offs on it? Refresh my memory, what size rubber are you planning to run?
Paul
289 FIA
2899464
408 Windsor
Toploader (wide)
3.07 rear
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July 25th, 2005, 06:42 AM
#12
Hi Paul:
I am having Trigos and Yokohama tires. The fronts are 235 60 15 and the rears are 255 60 15's.
Juan
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 25th, 2005, 12:16 PM
#13
Juan,
The P255/60R15 is only approved for up to a 9-inch wide rim. If I remember correctly, the Trigo FIA rear rim is 9.5 inches wide, which would put it outside Yokohama's recommended range . Will this be an issue? Can a bead come undone on a hard corner if the rim is not wide enough [8][xx(]? Anyone having knowledge of whether this is a problem please comment. How do you know if it is "close enough?"
Paul
289 FIA
2899464
408 Windsor
Toploader (wide)
3.07 rear
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July 25th, 2005, 12:22 PM
#14
Paul:
I will have to check with Alan on this. Way out of my league of knowledge.
Thanks for the heads up.
Juan
Juan Lopez-Bonilla
Kentucky Cobra Club
2432 Crittenden Drive
Suite 201
Louisville, KY 40217
502-635-5711
juanlb@lbrllc.net
http://www.kentuckycobraclub.com
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July 25th, 2005, 12:39 PM
#15
Juan,
In case you want to look at it, that info is available on the Yokohama website at
http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/AvidSTBull.pdf
See page two...
Paul
289 FIA
2899464
408 Windsor
Toploader (wide)
3.07 rear
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July 26th, 2005, 05:39 AM
#16
Paul,
I haven't heard of the sizing recommendation as you refer to, but the 235 front and 255 rear combination on Trigo wheels is pretty standard for FIA bodied Cobras, and is recommended by Alan and Maurice. Butch runs this size, and that's the size I ended up with too. Much more tire won't fit into the wells.
One other potential question...Where is the 9.5" dimension taken on the Trigo rims? If it is casting centerline-casting centerline, then the actual space between the flanges would be much closer to your maximum spec.
Brian Carlson
Unique 9122 - 289 FIA Cobra - The Legendary "Spence" Car
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July 26th, 2005, 10:20 AM
#17
Brian,
Check out the .pdf document on the link in my post above. Their recommendation is in one of the columns in the chart on page two. The BF Goodrich Radial TA spec is the same, and that can be checked on their web page.
As for the width measurement, I got that info from the Trigo website and directly from Lynn Park in discussion. Also, I got it empirically by taking a tape measure to the wheel to examine the offsets and width.
I measured the width at 9.5 inches between the two outside flanges where the tire bead sits. It is hard to measure, since there is no clear demarcation to measure from that delineates the actual width, since that area is machined with a large fillet to accept the tire bead. However, it appears to be 9.5 inches where the tire bead sits on the rim between the vertical part of the flanges.
Keep in mind that I am not saying this won't work. That is for the mechanical engineers to recommend, not for the computer engineers to recommend ! However, unless I can get clear information from the tire makers or some experts I will not likely use that size on my car. I will be checking to see if I can fit the 275 or 295 on the back end of it.
Paul
289 FIA
2899464
408 Windsor
Toploader (wide)
3.07 rear
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July 26th, 2005, 12:01 PM
#18
Paul,
I for one will be intrested in seeing you put those 275's on the back of a FIA car. Then I will REALLY be intrested in seeing you put the 295's on there, (60 series of course).
You have a lot of clearance issues and shock geometry issues back there especially when you go to pin drive wheels, shorting axles, shorter shocks, ect., ect.
So far mouting a 255 on the 9 1/2" rim this has been a non - issue. I for one don't see the 1/2" as a major issue. We don't know how the 9" maximum number came about, Product Liability, or engineering??. If 9 1/2" would work but publish 9" for safety sake.
Rick
#4279405
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July 26th, 2005, 01:45 PM
#19
Paul,
I don't doubt the measurement or the spec. Perhaps I was too excited when I got my wheels to notice any such warnings! Assuming the worst case from a pure numbers standpoint, I take comfort in knowing that the majority of FIA cars out there run the 255's on the rear. In the interest of full disclosure...I'll tell you that the Goodyear guys who mounted my tires had a bugger of a time seating the bead on the rim in back. Like Rick says though, I don't think that 275's would fit. Our rear end is narrowed more than standard and we may get away with it, but it would be close.
Brian Carlson
Unique 9122 - 289 FIA Cobra - The Legendary "Spence" Car
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July 26th, 2005, 05:00 PM
#20
Juan or Rick when are you going to be at Butch's on the 31st I'll run over.
Ralph
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