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    Quote Originally Posted by weaver View Post
    Maurice talked to Dave last week and told him what needed to be done, he was told when he ordered the side pipes what problems he might face when he went to install the pipes. We are on the 3rd supplier of both pipe material and fabricators which causes these type problems. If the engine is not perfectly level or the engine mounts are not in the exact location it will throw the bolt location off, I think Dave should be able to make what ever changes need to be made. Dave did not have to tell us how old the car was, we already knew the car and he was told up front that he would probably need to make some alterations and to make them before he sent them off for coating.
    Alan,
    My mouth is still hanging open reading your first actual reply to this problem. You posted to this thread way back on June 27th. You had no input at all except to say hello to someone who posted a reply to my issue. Pretty much you ignored your customer and the issue. Why did you even post at all. It was almost like you were taunting me. I pretty much just ignored it at that time. I really was taking the high road with this issue. I never threw Unique under the bus in any way. I never tried to hold Unique's feet to the fire in any way either. I started this thread to get information because I was concerned of a potential problem and I only shared with other members exactly what Maurice told me. I thought the whole point to these forums was to share all the experiences so we all learn something and help each other.
    So Alan, as I said, I was taking the high road with this issue, but since you are making things up that never happened and pretty much calling me a liar on a public forum, let's really clarify this whole thing. This is exactly how it went down. I was very specific about the year of my car and my expectations of the parts fitment. The reason I was so clear is because of another issue I had with Unique parts I purchased that did not fit at all with my original Unique hardware. I was perfectly clear on that purchase too. That issue was all settled offline via emails and I was reimbursed 70.00 for all the hardware I needed to purchase to make it work. That was like pulling teeth to get Unique to do the right thing. On this side-pipe purchase I was told that they would fit perfectly but advised to bolt them up before sending them out to be coated. The reason being that the holes may not line up exactly and I may have to make the holes a little bigger so I could get the bolts into the frame. That was it, period. I was told nothing of any type of rework as Alan is claiming. I paid my 650.00 and that was that. I am not a welder, if I knew there would be these types of problems, I would never have purchased the pipes. You act like I got these at some great discount and I should have expected all kinds of issues. If I had purchased these with the expectations you claim I knew about, trust me, I would not say a thing. Those people who know me, know that I am a total straight shooter and a man of principle. I don't make things up or leave things out.
    Last week via my phone conversation, I asked Maurice about the motor mounts and tranny mounts/engine location, Maurice's words exactly, motor mounts and tranny mounts are not the issue so don't bother loosening. The engine can only be in one place and had nothing to do with my problem at all. My thinking was maybe if I loosened the motor and tranny mounts, perhaps I could move it enough to make it work. He actually blamed the entire problem on the jig!
    I do appreciate all the feedback and I want you all to understand, it is not just the huge gaps but the brackets are located to far forward...the frame holes are on the edge of the bracket!!! It is almost like these were built for a car with a different engine. I will post some pics so maybe it will be easier to see. What is the point of having a jig if you don’t keep applicability to older cars that you have sold. Just don’t weld up the holes, mark the holes for applicability: use this set of holes or bracket locations for serial# ***-***** thru xxxx-****, use another set for serial # @@@@@-@@@@ thru++++-####, and so on. Either do that or have different jigs, whatever you need to do. If the manufacturer can't give you parts that fit, who can? You could even sell it as a kit where the customers fits it and welds the brackets as Scott H said. If Unique knew these will not fit certain cars (as Alan is suggesting),why would Unique attach them at all. These members who love to make excuses for Unique I just don’t understand. You make them sound like a backyard charity organization giving you these parts at some crazy discounted price so you should not expect much and they should have no accountability to their customer. It is like an automatic free pass, why, where does it end? So let's say I follow Maurice's direction to this problem, I bolt them up and preload it to death, then I crack out my headers. I suppose Unique gets another free pass because my headers were 18 years old and were ready to crack anyway. Not Unique' s fault even though they told me to do it and I voiced my concern and was told not to worry about it? Where is Unique's accountability in any of their dealings with customers? Even when ordering parts or kits that consist of a bag of parts with absolutely nothing- no directions, torques, precautions at all,is unacceptable. An exemplary company, one who puts their customer first and takes the utmost pride in their product, makes every effort to support their customers with directions, informative websites and customer service that includes follow up; suggesting that not only do they care for you as a customer, but they hold their product and customer service to the highest of standards. It is frustrating to rely on forums to work on your car. Not all of us are Master mechanics, welders, electricians, engineers. Ex: Go on ERA's site and check out all the very helpful info and instructions for their products. They are no bigger than Unique and have been around just as long. Just go to Alan's profile page, one of our members actually posted to Alan's page," I would not want to build a car for davids2toys". Gee, I wonder why the Weavers would not want to build a car for davids2toys, maybe because I would expect it to be built correctly! People who are constantly sucking up and making all the excuses for Unique are part of the problem because now Unique thinks it is alright to provide inadequate customer service on all levels the way they do.
    As I said, I think these side-pipes were made for either a different engine combination or just plain old poor workmanship. I have a stock 428 with stock heads, stock motor mounts, and stock tranny mount. In any case it doesn't matter, the standard supplier response and obligation for bad workmanship or wrong part is full replacement with a good part or full refund with no financial damage to the customer (shipping). At a minimum, pay all costs for the part to be reworked by the customer. To expect the customer to do all the work and not even offer to help with the cost is ridiculous!!!
    I asked for info/help nicely and I got this arrogant reply from Alan many months after I originally asked for assistance. I was pretty much ignored up until now. Unique could have handled this offline but decided to air laundry in public with Alan's posting. So if that is the way it goes, oh well, sorry. This is not what I wanted to do.
    So ,as you can see, I am very disappointed and definitely not a happy customer. Those of you who think these side pipe are so wonderful, buy them from me at a discounted price than what I paid. I am also interested in selling my car, but now much more serious about it. I want out and away from this crap. I will buy a Cobra that is supported by a company that believes in happy customers, I would be willing to sell my car for a very attractive price for the buyer, PM or email me with any questions, request for pics, etc, etc...
    I have never really been happy about Unique customer service, but up until now, have dealt with it. I only call them if there is no other choice. I put my car up for sale about a year ago but never really seriously pushed it or advertised it. The main reason I put it up for sale was because of the lack of support by Unique to myself and many others. I do love the Cobra and will immediately begin a search for another one as soon as this is sold. I was just going to sell it and go away quietly. I do not believe in bad mouthing anyone or hurting their business in any way unless I am provoked. As you can see, I absolutely feel provoked by Alan.
    I also know I am not the only one who feels this way. I have heard unhappiness from other Unique owners face to face, phone calls, and emails over the years concerning other issues that were brought up on the forum and just in general. It is too bad everybody is so scared to speak up, as I said earlier, we are part of the problem! I expect there will be an onslaught of the usual Weaver lovers, who need to be on the Weavers "GOOD" list. I really find it hard to believe they feel this happy with Unique. I will be very honest here, I am jealous; I absolutely wish I sincerely felt this way myself.
    Dave

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    Wow, I can't believe you got that upset over my post and I'm sorry you feel the way you do towards me and Unique Motorcars. I hate that you are so disapointed in us that you want to sell your car, if it helps I will try to find a buyer for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weaver View Post
    Wow, I can't believe you got that upset over my post and I'm sorry you feel the way you do towards me and Unique Motorcars. I hate that you are so disapointed in us that you want to sell your car, if it helps I will try to find a buyer for you.

    Alan
    It wasn't so much your post, it was just the straw that broke the camels back. If you cant believe I am that upset, I guess you did not read my post to good.
    As far as me selling my car, I kind of made that decision a couple of years ago after my last fiasco with Unique. Basically, I just put it in the local paper to see what happens, I also put it online. Both ads cost nothing as I was not desperate or that serious about selling it. I really do like my car, so I am torn, and still am.
    Alan, you have a right to run your business any way you want to, there is no law saying I and others have to like it, and I guess I dont. No hard feelings. I guess I just need a company that gives more customer support in all the areas mentioned in my post. Just in looking at your response to my post, if this is all you have to say, it shows me nothing is going to change.
    If you have a person looking for a nice car, feel free, if not, don't worry about it. I will be totally reasonable pricewise. I bought the car for 36,000 five years ago. I have invested time and money, so it is a much much nicer of a car today than it was when I bought it. I was asking 45,000 for it, I would sell it for what I paid for it.

    Thank You...Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids2toys View Post
    [FONT=&quot][SIZE=3]Alan,
    I expect there will be an onslaught of the usual Weaver lovers, who need to be on the Weavers "GOOD" list.
    david, get a grip. from your pics it looks to me that the fix is something that anyone who has any mechanical apptitude can take care of in under an hour. i think youre expecting too much to think youre going to get that kind of a part, custom made, without your 18 year old car in gadsden at their shop, to fit without any issues. if you cant tweak the holes on the flanges to level the pipes. z bend the brackets to bring the space left to the frame smaller and relocate the bracket holes to the frame, take it to someone who can. it wont break the bank. isnt that your red unique with the 428 thats been in the bargain news with the 203 area code for the last 2 years? if youre serious knock about 10k off and hope you can get that. been there, done that. i got no skin in this game now. besides i never cared if i was on anyones good list i think maybe you should apologize now. no hard feelings, brian.


    alan, maurice and family, belated condolences on your mothers passing. she was the first person i went to see everytime i walked through your doors. i will miss her. brian.

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    To David and Alan,

    Suggested resolution-
    Dave, mark location of correct placement of tabs, take the pipes to a welder have him weld the tabs in correct location, have welder fill in header flange hole you can then drill in in the correct place. have welder fix header cracks.

    Alan, cut a check for $150.00. That should cover it

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott h View Post
    To David and Alan,

    Suggested resolution-
    Dave, mark location of correct placement of tabs, take the pipes to a welder have him weld the tabs in correct location, have welder fill in header flange hole you can then drill in in the correct place. have welder fix header cracks.

    Alan, cut a check for $150.00. That should cover it
    Hi Scott,
    Give my post another read, I know it is long and covers a lot of ground, I'm sorry about that.
    My headers are not cracked ...yet!

    Scott, you must be a natural born diplomat/negotiator, isnt it a shame you are saying this and Unique is not. This is exactly what I am talking about!
    How about I get a full refund, and Unique can resell them to an owner that has a car that they fit. Then they could fix the jig and build a set of pipes that are correct for my car or any other Unique car that was built in the same time period as mine.
    Dave
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    Simply Amazing

    Guy's you are not ordering parts for your Factory Mustang or whatever.

    These cars are just like the originals, no two are exactly the same.

    I put these same Spiral Sidpipes on my car after it was finished, another words replaced the existing stock sidepipes. Did they fit perfectly, no. So I did what any good car builder or fabricator would do and made the changes to make my pipes fit my car. That's what you do. That's what all of us car builders have done.

    From your pictures it looks like an easy fix, I suggest you go that direction.
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    david, i dont feel insulted that you implied im a hack, which by the way is an insult, but thats only because you havent got a clue. if you didnt go on a thousand word tirade ending with an insult to anyone that doesnt agree with what you said i wouldnt have said a word. like i stated in my last post, if you cant do the minor tweaks to make it fit take it to someone who can, and go back to enjoying your car or selling it, whichever bring you to nirvana. now that rick has posted basically the same thing i said you can imply hes a hack too.have fun with that. brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by brfutbrian View Post
    david, i dont feel insulted that you implied im a hack, which by the way is an insult, but thats only because you havent got a clue. if you didnt go on a thousand word tirade ending with an insult to anyone that doesnt agree with what you said i wouldnt have said a word. like i stated in my last post, if you cant do the minor tweaks to make it fit take it to someone who can, and go back to enjoying your car or selling it, whichever bring you to nirvana. now that rick has posted basically the same thing i said you can imply hes a hack too.have fun with that. brian
    Brian,
    Take it any way you want it, I was not insulting you or saying you were a hack at all. So you are saying Rick has the same opinion, so you both have the same standards and pride in ownership? I don't think so. I dont know Rick or his car, but from what I understand, he has a very above average exceptional car, so highly doubt he is a hack at all.
    I am not the one who starts a non insulting post with "get a grip". Also, how do you know it wont "break the bank". I take it that because it wont break your bank, that your financially situation applies to everyone. Maybe I dont have the extra money to do this. Maybe if I knew I would have to do this I would not have bother buying the part.
    I dont see where I ended any post with an insult, even my thousand word tirade.
    Dont you worry Brian, everything will all work out in the end and I will be smiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliminator View Post
    Guy's you are not ordering parts for your Factory Mustang or whatever.

    These cars are just like the originals, no two are exactly the same.

    I put these same Spiral Sidpipes on my car after it was finished, another words replaced the existing stock sidepipes. Did they fit perfectly, no. So I did what any good car builder or fabricator would do and made the changes to make my pipes fit my car. That's what you do. That's what all of us car builders have done.

    From your pictures it looks like an easy fix, I suggest you go that direction.
    Rick,
    I did not expect these pipes to fit "perfectly". I expected them to fit exactly as Unique and I had discussed when I was ordering them for my 1994 car.."I may have to elongate the holes a little in the bracket" were the exact words.
    Are you telling me you had to remove the bracket or weld pieces on so you could pick up the holes in the frame. This may be an easy job for you and other talented folks, but it is not for me and many others I'm sure. If Unique knows these pipes are this far out of whack, they should either tell you up front, or sell it as a kit where you locate the brackets and weld it yourself, or hire someone to do this for you. All replica car owners are not master craftsmen in all areas, believe me, I wish I was. I have all the respect and admiration in the world for some of the talent I have seen on this forum and others.
    I hear what you are saying about factory parts vs. this situation. Then why have a jig? If you are using a jig, it should be a lot closer than this. If this is not true, than I really am expecting to much indeed.

    Your suggestion is exacly what I will have to do.

    Thank You...Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by brfutbrian View Post
    david, get a grip. from your pics it looks to me that the fix is something that anyone who has any mechanical apptitude can take care of in under an hour. i think youre expecting too much to think youre going to get that kind of a part, custom made, without your 18 year old car in gadsden at their shop, to fit without any issues. if you cant tweak the holes on the flanges to level the pipes. z bend the brackets to bring the space left to the frame smaller and relocate the bracket holes to the frame, take it to someone who can. it wont break the bank. isnt that your red unique with the 428 thats been in the bargain news with the 203 area code for the last 2 years? if youre serious knock about 10k off and hope you can get that. been there, done that. i got no skin in this game now. besides i never cared if i was on anyones good list i think maybe you should apologize now. no hard feelings, brian.


    alan, maurice and family, belated condolences on your mothers passing. she was the first person i went to see everytime i walked through your doors. i will miss her. brian.
    Brian,
    I think you are the one who needs to get a grip. An hour? I DO NOT THINK SO my friend!! Please re-read this thread...forget the the gaps, my frame holes are lined up with the edge of the brackets. there is no relocating unless you physically move the whole bracket. IT IS MISLOCATED AND WELDED ON THE SIDE-PIPE!
    Brian, who ever asked for a custom made part? Not me. So when I order a part from anywhere to fit any one of my cars, truck, or bike, is that a custom part? Absolutely not, and it is supposed to fit without any kind of work except maybe a very minor tweak. That is what Unique said I was going to get, so why would I be happy about now having to do major modifications to make a part fit that should have in the first place. That is what a JIG is all about. This after being ignored for months.
    Brian, I have met you, talked with you, and have seen your car, you are a smart guy but you have no problem living with "lots jerry rigging" to make things work, so do I to a point, but there is a limit. Your limit is much lgreater than mine. If you go to far with this you end up with a piece of trash for a car. That is not me at all. I have pride in ownership and have plenty of trophies to prove it. Please do not impose your standards on me, just as I would not impose my standards on you. Also, please don't take this the wrong way. I am not insulting you or your car.
    Unique is the car manufacturer and there is no reason they should not be able to supply parts that fit consistantly and made correctly. If you cant do this, then dont say you can, take my money, and then give me a bad part. Then, to put icing on the cake, take no responsibility or accept any of the burden of the situation. they could have nipped this in the butt months ago offline, but chose to ignore it and me. I did exactly as Unique(Alan) told me to do years ago, " always try to resolve any problems on the forum first, then if you cant get the answer you need, give us a call". I even asked him by name for help in the thread
    Yes, it is the car in the Bargain News. As you know, they will keep running the ad until you stop it. i just let it run. I did lower it to 43,000 about 6 months ago. i just looked in the paper and it is still at 45,000. I never checked to make sure it got changed. As I have said, I really did not care if I sold the car or not because i like my car a lot! I have never sold a car for this reason, so this is new territory for me.
    So Brian, what in the world would I be apologizing for??? You have got to be kidding! OK, I suppose I could think of a few things:
    I am sorry I took Unique at their word, and now I'm paying the price...again.
    I am sorry I feel I need to get rid of a car that I like because there is inadequate support and I am sick of it.
    I am sorry that I have to totally rely on a forum to work on my car.
    I am sorry I am not a master craftsmen in all areas of working on this or any other car.
    I am really sorry that Alan has nothing else to say about my post, my sidepipes, Unique's responsibilty and accountability to the customer.

    Should I keep going, I could if you want me to!

    I am really trully sorry that I felt the need to write that post to Alan, what an incredible waste of my time. believe me, it is honestly the last thing I wanted to do, but I had no choice. It has just become a matter of principle

    I am also very sorry to hear of Alan & Maurice's mother passing away.

    Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids2toys View Post
    Brian, I have met you, talked with you, and have seen your car, you are a smart guy but you have no problem living with "lots jerry rigging" to make things work, so do I to a point, but there is a limit. Your limit is much lgreater than mine.

    Dave
    dave, youre right, you didnt say im a hack, you just implied it. the only difference between the two is balls. wow you have the gift of knowing the inner working of my mind after meeting me for the first time for a 5 minute span at the end of a local cruise night in near total darkness. you missed your calling, you should be working for the CIA. too bad you dont know squat. why dont you share with everyone all the jerry rigged stuff you saw on my car. anyone who knows me at all knows i dont jerry rig anything. i can guarentee theres many people that had their laugh for the day reading the passive agressive posting here by you in the past few days. heres the bottom line, your problem has a very easy and simple fix. youve been told that by 2 very knowledgeable ,skilled, and qualified people, after you finally posted some pictures. i even dropped you a hint of one way to do it. if you had gotten a grip and apologized for your thousand word rant, at the very least apologized to the folks on this forum,who through your passive-aggressive style you insulted (and im sure im not the only one who feels that way) id have offered to fix your pipes. it would have been a done deal in twenty minutes. instead you insult me. youre a moron. while im still typing lets go back the subject of jerry rigging, why dont you share your problem with your rear shock changeover. i found it very interesting. you do know that this forum isnt the only place where talking takes place. you just keep smiling. ive got to get back to drinking some weaver brand koolaid. i think its starting to wear off. it would just kill me not to have my name on the good list. brian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brfutbrian View Post
    dave, youre right, you didnt say im a hack, you just implied it. the only difference between the two is balls. wow you have the gift of knowing the inner working of my mind after meeting me for the first time for a 5 minute span at the end of a local cruise night in near total darkness. you missed your calling, you should be working for the CIA. too bad you dont know squat. why dont you share with everyone all the jerry rigged stuff you saw on my car. anyone who knows me at all knows i dont jerry rig anything. i can guarentee theres many people that had their laugh for the day reading the passive agressive posting here by you in the past few days. heres the bottom line, your problem has a very easy and simple fix. youve been told that by 2 very knowledgeable ,skilled, and qualified people, after you finally posted some pictures. i even dropped you a hint of one way to do it. if you had gotten a grip and apologized for your thousand word rant, at the very least apologized to the folks on this forum,who through your passive-aggressive style you insulted (and im sure im not the only one who feels that way) id have offered to fix your pipes. it would have been a done deal in twenty minutes. instead you insult me. youre a moron. while im still typing lets go back the subject of jerry rigging, why dont you share your problem with your rear shock changeover. i found it very interesting. you do know that this forum isnt the only place where talking takes place. you just keep smiling. ive got to get back to drinking some weaver brand koolaid. i think its starting to wear off. it would just kill me not to have my name on the good list. brian.
    Wow Brian, I must have really hit a nerve, even got some good name calling in this one. Why don't you grow up!
    Just because someone says good and bad in the same paragraph or sentence does not make them passive aggressive. Looking at your quote, I can see how you might have thought I was calling you a hack, but I really did not mean too, so I will apologize for that misunderstanding, it was more of the things we were talking about and not so much your car itself. Your car looked like a typical driver, it was not even clean inside or outside, and we were at a car show. If you recall, you were telling me about a bunch of your different issues and how you had fixed them, and also other things you had done on your car. Before you ask me exactly what issues, I do not remember, it was years ago. All I was saying is that we all treat our cars differently and please do not force your standards on me. Yes, I absolutely think I have higher standards than you, and there are plenty of people out there who have higher standards than me, big deal, who cares, just get over it!
    OK, no passive aggressive tendency here either. I can see you are also a big exaggerator to say the least. When we met at the car show, we spent a lot longer than 5 minutes and you know it. The 5 minutes you are thinking of was when you were leaving and your headlights would not work! Do you remember that? Also, first you say an hour fix on my car, now you say 20 minutes. It is neither, and it is something I absolutely do not believe I should have to do at all even though I will end up having to do it. The only reason I wrote my thousand word tirade was because Alan said I was told and aware I would have alterations like this and that was absolutely positively not true at all. I have already stated what I was told by Unique when I was purchasing these. I am sorry, that really pissed me off, and still pisses me off. If you can't understand this, oh well, at this point, I don't really care if you understand or not.
    OK, so now you are also Unique’s lawyer. You say" while I'm still typing lets go back the subject of jerry rigging, why don't you share your problem with your rear shock changeover. I found it very interesting. you do know that this forum isn't the only place where talking takes place
    So, what you are you saying is Unique talks to customers about other customers behind their back? Not a very professional way to run a business! So, all you have is a one sided story and you are running with this? I think you may want to go talk to Maurice before you go shooting your mouth off. If they have no problem opening that up that mess for the public, ok with me. Yeah, that will be another beauty, I promise. Then I will post the 1000 word tirade letter that I had written to Maurice privately if that is what he wants. You will see some interesting thoughts about jerry rigging for sure, but not by me dude! My rear shock changeover was pretty much the same as this problem I am having with these side pipes, only a different part of the car. Just remember, you are the one bringing this up, not me! So don’t turn around after it blows up, and then ask me for an apology like you are doing today with this issue. I totally took the high road with that issue and handled it privately and the thanks I get is Unique creating their own one sided version and stabbing a customer in the back. I'll tell you what Brian, since you are the one bringing it up and daring me, why don't you tell the story you heard, and then I will give my side. I like that idea even better.
    Speaking of apologies, I still am pretty confused about all the people I have insulted and hurt etc, etc...
    Not for anything, if you look back to your first post, you are the one who got aggressive with me. Then you get hurt feelings and mad when I give it back a little. I guess you can dish it out much better than you can take it. Maybe you better layoff that Kool-Aid a little.
    Dave
    93 Unique Motorcars 427 SC, 428PI with CJ heads, toploader 4 spd,jag rear with 354 gears, Red with white stripes.

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