Oil cooler/radiator aluminum

[Brent]

Help!!!

Any pics of the aluminum in front of the radiator and around the oil cooler would be great[8D]

I plan to start on it this weekend and need some input.

Anything you would do different or change would help.[?]

Thanks alot!!!

Brent

[clayfoushee]

Send me an e-mail, and I'll try to take some pictures and get them to you directly.....today or tomorrow. I have a nice installation, factory installed by Unique.

Unique 9929 427 side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Send me an e-mail, and I'll try to take some pictures and get them to you directly.....today or tomorrow. I have a nice installation, factory installed by Unique.

Unique 9929 427 side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Here you go. Hope this helps.
http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/clayfoushee/cobra.alum2.jpg

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/clayfoushee/cobra.alumside.jpg

Unique 9929 427 side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Here you go. Hope this helps.
http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/clayfoushee/cobra.alum2.jpg

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/clayfoushee/cobra.alumside.jpg

Unique 9929 427 side oiler

[pgermond]

Brent,

Thanks for asking the question. I was on the phone this morning w/Alan asking the very same thing. clayfoushee - thanks for the pics.... very helpful :D

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

Brent,

Thanks for asking the question. I was on the phone this morning w/Alan asking the very same thing. clayfoushee - thanks for the pics.... very helpful :D

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[clayfoushee]

Phil,

You're welcome. I just joined this forum today, so am just getting up to speed. I'm from the Washington DC metro area, and we have a very active club (Capital Area Cobra Club). I bought my car last August, which was factory built by Unique in 97.

Once I figure it out, I'll get pictures up. I saw your build pictures tonight....love your choice of color and engine treatment. Aren't those turkey pans pretty!!?

Best, Clayhttp://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/clayfoushee/427FE.small.jpg

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Phil,

You're welcome. I just joined this forum today, so am just getting up to speed. I'm from the Washington DC metro area, and we have a very active club (Capital Area Cobra Club). I bought my car last August, which was factory built by Unique in 97.

Once I figure it out, I'll get pictures up. I saw your build pictures tonight....love your choice of color and engine treatment. Aren't those turkey pans pretty!!?

Best, Clayhttp://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/clayfoushee/427FE.small.jpg

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[pgermond]

Brent - here are my notes and refernce pic I made (for what it's worth - I'm going to be doing this over the weekend and hope I don't wind up behind the [8])



http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/Remote oil cooler aluminum.JPG

Oil Cooler Aluminum
1. Install radiator first
2. Mount oil cooler in box
3. Mount box in opening insuring cooler is level using two bolts – will have to use shims
4. #5 and #6 - one rivet in 5 and 6 to hold in place (cleco’s wont work – may have to drill out if necessary to move)
5. #3 and #4 - make a template using poster board for 3 and 4. Fit template before bending aluminum to fit and using cleco’s
6. #3 and #4 - Drill holes for lines
7. #3 and #4 – overlap needs to be centered using stripe as reference
8. #1 goes up in front of radiator (if desired)


Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

Brent - here are my notes and refernce pic I made (for what it's worth - I'm going to be doing this over the weekend and hope I don't wind up behind the [8])



http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/Remote oil cooler aluminum.JPG

Oil Cooler Aluminum
1. Install radiator first
2. Mount oil cooler in box
3. Mount box in opening insuring cooler is level using two bolts – will have to use shims
4. #5 and #6 - one rivet in 5 and 6 to hold in place (cleco’s wont work – may have to drill out if necessary to move)
5. #3 and #4 - make a template using poster board for 3 and 4. Fit template before bending aluminum to fit and using cleco’s
6. #3 and #4 - Drill holes for lines
7. #3 and #4 – overlap needs to be centered using stripe as reference
8. #1 goes up in front of radiator (if desired)


Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

Clay,

Welcome aboard, and thanks for the complement. You'll find this forum very useful.... I sure have [^]

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

Clay,

Welcome aboard, and thanks for the complement. You'll find this forum very useful.... I sure have [^]

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[Brent]

:D:D THANKS!!!! :D:D


That is exactly what I was looking for.

Clay welcome aboard, Good looking car too.

Pgermond you need to slow down...your making me look bad. [8D]

Brent

[Brent]

:D:D THANKS!!!! :D:D


That is exactly what I was looking for.

Clay welcome aboard, Good looking car too.

Pgermond you need to slow down...your making me look bad. [8D]

Brent

[eliminator]

One thing you guys need to look at doing, run your fan wires inside the brace that holds your fans. You just need a hot wire to the fans (watch for the right wire as fans will run both clockwise and counterclockwise), the ground can go to the fan bracket. Would load a picture but there at home on the PC there. You can drill a couple of holes in the brace for the wires. Brent, this info is on the disc I gave you.

Eliminator

[eliminator]

One thing you guys need to look at doing, run your fan wires inside the brace that holds your fans. You just need a hot wire to the fans (watch for the right wire as fans will run both clockwise and counterclockwise), the ground can go to the fan bracket. Would load a picture but there at home on the PC there. You can drill a couple of holes in the brace for the wires. Brent, this info is on the disc I gave you.

Eliminator

[Okiesnake]

It looks like Part #'s 5 & 6 (Phils pics)are missing on Clayfoushee's Pics. They go on the left & right side of the radiator to seal off air from being diverted around and not through the radiator.

[Okiesnake]

It looks like Part #'s 5 & 6 (Phils pics)are missing on Clayfoushee's Pics. They go on the left & right side of the radiator to seal off air from being diverted around and not through the radiator.

[Okiesnake]

I also ran Parts # 3 & 4 differently. See http://pages.sbcglobal.net/tdockstett/FinFanC.jpg
and http://pages.sbcglobal.net/tdockstett/cropFtVw.jpg

[Okiesnake]

I also ran Parts # 3 & 4 differently. See http://pages.sbcglobal.net/tdockstett/FinFanC.jpg
and http://pages.sbcglobal.net/tdockstett/cropFtVw.jpg

[clayfoushee]

Interesting Okie, hadn't noticed that. I didn't build my car and just acquired it in August, but when doing research prior to buying it, the Weavers told me they did factory build the car in 97.

I wonder if parts #5 & 6 are product enhancements that came along later? I'll have to ask the Weavers.

But, for whatever it's worth, you actually don't notice that opening when looking normally at the car, and when moving, the side-oiler is registering a cool 150 deg. on the gauge.

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Interesting Okie, hadn't noticed that. I didn't build my car and just acquired it in August, but when doing research prior to buying it, the Weavers told me they did factory build the car in 97.

I wonder if parts #5 & 6 are product enhancements that came along later? I'll have to ask the Weavers.

But, for whatever it's worth, you actually don't notice that opening when looking normally at the car, and when moving, the side-oiler is registering a cool 150 deg. on the gauge.

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

P.S. Okie,

Just looked at your installation which looks nice. It does look like a different aluminum design than on your car. For example, the bottom piece goes all the way back to the radiator as do the sides.

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

P.S. Okie,

Just looked at your installation which looks nice. It does look like a different aluminum design than on your car. For example, the bottom piece goes all the way back to the radiator as do the sides.

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[Brent]

Pgermond, is that a Unique aluminum kit or self made?

Clay, it looks like your bottom piece is just one piece without a seam in the middle?

Okiesnake, how do the side pieces next to the radiator mount?

Thanks everyone these pics are great!

Brent

[Brent]

Pgermond, is that a Unique aluminum kit or self made?

Clay, it looks like your bottom piece is just one piece without a seam in the middle?

Okiesnake, how do the side pieces next to the radiator mount?

Thanks everyone these pics are great!

Brent

[eliminator]

Pgermond's aluminum is the Unique kit or someone has made an exact copy of their kit. The kit has changed over the years somewhat but this is the kit that is sold now. The lower aluminum pieces butt in the middle, or off center depending on how you do it. Pieces 5 and 6 can be held in place with 1 or 2 pop rivets, actually 3 and 4 go over these pieces and are pop riveted to them. Will try to post some shots of this tonight.

Eliminator

[eliminator]

Pgermond's aluminum is the Unique kit or someone has made an exact copy of their kit. The kit has changed over the years somewhat but this is the kit that is sold now. The lower aluminum pieces butt in the middle, or off center depending on how you do it. Pieces 5 and 6 can be held in place with 1 or 2 pop rivets, actually 3 and 4 go over these pieces and are pop riveted to them. Will try to post some shots of this tonight.

Eliminator

[Okiesnake]

Hopefully I the following diagram will helphttp://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/okiesnake/Parts.jpg

[Okiesnake]

Hopefully I the following diagram will helphttp://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/okiesnake/Parts.jpg

[clayfoushee]

Yes, the aluminum on the bottom is one piece and each side is one piece (total of 3). As I said, mine was a turn-key car built by the Weavers in 97, so my guess is they've made changes in the aluminum over the years.

I do like the oil cooler hoses coming through the holes in the side aluminum with a rubber insulator around them. The gaps at the top on each side of the radiator aren't visible unless you're about 18" tall or spend a lot of time lying down in your garage. Moreover, the airflow around the radiator makes no difference, since there's still the same amount of air hitting the radiator...might even help cooling in the resting of the engine bay.

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Yes, the aluminum on the bottom is one piece and each side is one piece (total of 3). As I said, mine was a turn-key car built by the Weavers in 97, so my guess is they've made changes in the aluminum over the years.

I do like the oil cooler hoses coming through the holes in the side aluminum with a rubber insulator around them. The gaps at the top on each side of the radiator aren't visible unless you're about 18" tall or spend a lot of time lying down in your garage. Moreover, the airflow around the radiator makes no difference, since there's still the same amount of air hitting the radiator...might even help cooling in the resting of the engine bay.

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[pgermond]

<img src=images/icon_speech_wow.gif border=0 width=23 height=15 alt=Insert Speech Icon: Wow!> Okiesnake, that's pretty cool. Thanks :D


Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

<img src=images/icon_speech_wow.gif border=0 width=23 height=15 alt=Insert Speech Icon: Wow!> Okiesnake, that's pretty cool. Thanks :D


Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[Okiesnake]

I know it is a little excessive-compulsive, but I ran the fan wires through small gauge wire loom. I split the wires out so that the wires to the right fan enter from the right side of the car and the wires to the left fans enter from the left side of the car.
Brent, as you may have figured out, after pieces 5 & 6 and the oil cooler shroud are installed, pieces 3 & 4 are bent into place on the sides of the opening and pop riveted into place.
Clayfoushee, I too like the oil cooler hoses coming through the holes in the side aluminum with rubber grommets around them. I ran the oil cooler lines and the wire looms through rubber grommets.

[Okiesnake]

I know it is a little excessive-compulsive, but I ran the fan wires through small gauge wire loom. I split the wires out so that the wires to the right fan enter from the right side of the car and the wires to the left fans enter from the left side of the car.
Brent, as you may have figured out, after pieces 5 & 6 and the oil cooler shroud are installed, pieces 3 & 4 are bent into place on the sides of the opening and pop riveted into place.
Clayfoushee, I too like the oil cooler hoses coming through the holes in the side aluminum with rubber grommets around them. I ran the oil cooler lines and the wire looms through rubber grommets.

[clayfoushee]

Okie,

I thought that was a great idea, hiding the wires the way you did. I just wish the Weavers had thought of that before they built my car.....obviously not O-C enough. My guess is Mr. Shelby probably didn't think of that either.

I'm glad I found this forum. I'm learning a lot from many people like you.

Best, Clay

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Okie,

I thought that was a great idea, hiding the wires the way you did. I just wish the Weavers had thought of that before they built my car.....obviously not O-C enough. My guess is Mr. Shelby probably didn't think of that either.

I'm glad I found this forum. I'm learning a lot from many people like you.

Best, Clay

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[pgermond]

<img src=images/icon_speech_yeah.gif border=0 width=29 height=15 alt=Insert Speech Icon: Yeah!> Man-o-man, this has become a hot topic. Just goes to show this forum is more interested in building cars than railing on the topic-o-the-day [^]

Keep that useful information and suggestions coming [:P]

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

<img src=images/icon_speech_yeah.gif border=0 width=29 height=15 alt=Insert Speech Icon: Yeah!> Man-o-man, this has become a hot topic. Just goes to show this forum is more interested in building cars than railing on the topic-o-the-day [^]

Keep that useful information and suggestions coming [:P]

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[GeorgiaSnake]

I'm considering making some nose panels this winter. Anybody know the gauge of the aluminum and what works best. I may end up buying the kit from Unique but I'm a little stubborn and like to try and do stuff on my own [:o)]

Great idea on running the fan wires inside the bracket [^] another winter project.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[GeorgiaSnake]

I'm considering making some nose panels this winter. Anybody know the gauge of the aluminum and what works best. I may end up buying the kit from Unique but I'm a little stubborn and like to try and do stuff on my own [:o)]

Great idea on running the fan wires inside the bracket [^] another winter project.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Brent]

I am using #3003 aluminum .030 thick.

I have sent my fan mount to ChromeMasters in Nashville, TN. I will be running the wires through the inside of the mounting tube, it was actually pretty easy to do.

Brent

[Brent]

I am using #3003 aluminum .030 thick.

I have sent my fan mount to ChromeMasters in Nashville, TN. I will be running the wires through the inside of the mounting tube, it was actually pretty easy to do.

Brent

[pgermond]

Hey Brent,

Played hooky again today [8D] Got the radiator and cooler mounted, cut out some templates for the aluminum, but had to stop due the fact that I need to get a 1" punch for the aluminum around the cooler.

Do you plan on going up and over with your lines, or horizontal?

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/2 Radiator and cooler in.JPG

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

Hey Brent,

Played hooky again today [8D] Got the radiator and cooler mounted, cut out some templates for the aluminum, but had to stop due the fact that I need to get a 1" punch for the aluminum around the cooler.

Do you plan on going up and over with your lines, or horizontal?

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/2 Radiator and cooler in.JPG

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[Brent]

My lines come in from the sides about 3" above the cooler.

You and these "hooky" days. Damn I need a new job. I can't get anything done at night.

Brent

[Brent]

My lines come in from the sides about 3" above the cooler.

You and these "hooky" days. Damn I need a new job. I can't get anything done at night.

Brent

[pgermond]

First let me say thanks to all of you guys. This forum is the best [^] for getting and sharing advice. I had heard all sorts of horror stories about installing this aluminum, but after exchanging ideas, tips, etc., I can't believe how easy it was and how well it turned out.

With that said - the fruits of my labors: :D:D:D

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/3 Aluminum ready.JPG

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/3 Aluminum installed.JPG

Miller time!!! [:P][^][:P]:D

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/3 Miller time.JPG

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

First let me say thanks to all of you guys. This forum is the best [^] for getting and sharing advice. I had heard all sorts of horror stories about installing this aluminum, but after exchanging ideas, tips, etc., I can't believe how easy it was and how well it turned out.

With that said - the fruits of my labors: :D:D:D

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/3 Aluminum ready.JPG

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/3 Aluminum installed.JPG

Miller time!!! [:P][^][:P]:D

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pgermond/3 Miller time.JPG

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[clayfoushee]

Nice job Phil....glad to have been the "poster child" for wires inside the fan support bar....LOL.:D

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[clayfoushee]

Nice job Phil....glad to have been the "poster child" for wires inside the fan support bar....LOL.:D

Unique 9299, 427FE side oiler

[pgermond]

clayfoushee - Thanks, and the wiring is tomorrows project, along with the steering column. ;)


Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

clayfoushee - Thanks, and the wiring is tomorrows project, along with the steering column. ;)


Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[Brent]

Phil,
That looks cool [8D]

Thanks for being my "cheat sheet" guys. This thread has been awesome.

Great forum!!!!!!

Brent :D

[Brent]

Phil,
That looks cool [8D]

Thanks for being my "cheat sheet" guys. This thread has been awesome.

Great forum!!!!!!

Brent :D

[eliminator]

Now another tip for you guy's. Take the two bolts loose that run through the motor and rotate the portion of your motor that has the wires exiting the motor to get the wires the correct position so the wiring harness will come out the top of the fan motor assembly. The drivers fan motor can be set at 1 o'clock and the passenger fan motor at 11 o'clock or however you want them. Just makes the whole fan mount a little cleaner.[8D][8D]

Eliminator

[eliminator]

Now another tip for you guy's. Take the two bolts loose that run through the motor and rotate the portion of your motor that has the wires exiting the motor to get the wires the correct position so the wiring harness will come out the top of the fan motor assembly. The drivers fan motor can be set at 1 o'clock and the passenger fan motor at 11 o'clock or however you want them. Just makes the whole fan mount a little cleaner.[8D][8D]

Eliminator

[Brent]

:D:D:D:D OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE :D:D:D:D


Just kidding.


Not really:D

Brent

[Brent]

:D:D:D:D OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE :D:D:D:D


Just kidding.


Not really:D

Brent

[eliminator]

Brent,

That's what happens to you when you hang around with Butch Capps[^]!
Your next.

Eliminator

[eliminator]

Brent,

That's what happens to you when you hang around with Butch Capps[^]!
Your next.

Eliminator

[brfutbrian]

if you really want to make the the fans look good, take them apart and paint the motors later, brian

[brfutbrian]

if you really want to make the the fans look good, take them apart and paint the motors later, brian

[eliminator]

Here is a shot of the kleko clamps used in fitting the aluminum.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/eliminator/Cobra 049.jpg

Eliminator

[eliminator]

Here is a shot of the kleko clamps used in fitting the aluminum.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/eliminator/Cobra 049.jpg

Eliminator

[Okiesnake]

Phil,
In your pics, it looks like you have some kind of a wire mesh grill cover over your radiator. If you do, please share the details. I have seen SPF's with a mesh grill covers (of course they just use 1 puller fan behind the grill). It would be a great idea to protect the grill from suicidal bugs.

[Okiesnake]

Phil,
In your pics, it looks like you have some kind of a wire mesh grill cover over your radiator. If you do, please share the details. I have seen SPF's with a mesh grill covers (of course they just use 1 puller fan behind the grill). It would be a great idea to protect the grill from suicidal bugs.

[Joe LaFives]

Very helpful information. Ouestion?: How did you create the templates? - What kind of measuring technique?

[Joe LaFives]

Very helpful information. Ouestion?: How did you create the templates? - What kind of measuring technique?

[GeorgiaSnake]

Joe you can use cardboard. You bend it and cut it until you have what you want. If you cut it wrong tape pieces on. After you get the shape you want lay it flat on the aluminum, mark it and cut it. Mark the ends of each fold. Then you can bend it to replicate the cardboard. If you don't have a brake you can use wood (hardwood like oak) that has eased edges.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[GeorgiaSnake]

Joe you can use cardboard. You bend it and cut it until you have what you want. If you cut it wrong tape pieces on. After you get the shape you want lay it flat on the aluminum, mark it and cut it. Mark the ends of each fold. Then you can bend it to replicate the cardboard. If you don't have a brake you can use wood (hardwood like oak) that has eased edges.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Joe LaFives]

I can do that:)

I was thinking there was some secret math formula or measuring technique.

Best

[Joe LaFives]

I can do that:)

I was thinking there was some secret math formula or measuring technique.

Best

[pgermond]

[u]Okiesnake</u> - No, there is no mesh... just the way the pic turned out.

[u]Joe</u> - If you have a break, etc for bending, that's great. I don't, so I resorted to what I use best - my hands [:P] one on one side and one on the other (palms flat) and just slowing began to bend the aluminum working up and down the panel. Also, I found card board a bit to cumbersome, so I used light poster board paper (that what those red templates are made of on page 2).

Good luck [8D]



Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[pgermond]

[u]Okiesnake</u> - No, there is no mesh... just the way the pic turned out.

[u]Joe</u> - If you have a break, etc for bending, that's great. I don't, so I resorted to what I use best - my hands [:P] one on one side and one on the other (palms flat) and just slowing began to bend the aluminum working up and down the panel. Also, I found card board a bit to cumbersome, so I used light poster board paper (that what those red templates are made of on page 2).

Good luck [8D]



Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)