Heater Hose Bracket

[GeorgiaSnake]

I didn't like the heater hose just hanging from the heater to the block so I made a little bracket. I will mount it on the top of the foot box and run the hoses through it. I'll let you guys know how it works. You can just see the hose connection near the distributor.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/Hose Bracket.JPG

BTW - NOT a Cobra. Do not believe the valve covers.

[GeorgiaSnake]

Can't get the other two shots to load.

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[GeorgiaSnake]

Trial fit seems to work.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00498.JPG



Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[souzape]

Heater.....heater- you have a heater?? I drove my car 1.5 hours home from a Vintage Auto Racing Association function at Willow Springs a couple of weekends ago in 28 degree darkness. No top, no side curtains, no heater. Man, you should seen some of the out-takes I got from people I passed that night cruising north through the Mojave desert. Sure wished I hadn't been so cheap then! I had a smile for two days just because I couldn't move any muscles in my face though. Looks nice a nice braket. There are some obviously some talented fabricators in our group. Nice set-up.

PHIL SOUZA

[GeorgiaSnake]

Thanks Phil ! I question the talent part [8]. I made the thing from the some flat stock I purchased at Home Depot. The tools I used - a vise, drill, 1 1/4" hole saw, hack saw and file. I'll polish it after I get the final shape right. I have no idea where the gromets came from I found them in a box.

The heater is mostly for my significant other half. ;)

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Bracket looks great! Could you post a pic that shows the entire heater hoses from the motor pick up and return?

[GeorgiaSnake]

Okie I'll be happy to after I figure out exactly how I'm going to make the hook up. I think the outlet on the water pump will feed into the lower line (one with the flow valve) and the other line into the manifold. It looks to me like I have two options, one on the carb side behind the thermostat and the other on the thermostat housing. Got any ideas.

Randy


Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[GeorgiaSnake]

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00505.JPG

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00504.JPG

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00503.JPG

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Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Looks really good. I still am looking for the pic that is simular to the pic of your first pic but a little more wide angle, to see how the hoses bend towards the front of the engine. Also, being a fellow anal detail kind of guy, you might want to take a dremmel cut-off wheel and trim off the excess hose clamp tail. :)

[pbrown]

I thought one of the heater hoses was supposed to connect to the intake just behind the water neck.

--Patrick

[GeorgiaSnake]

Okie those clamps will be history next week. I use the stacked washer type, you can see them on the radiator hoses in the previous pics. I hate those little cheap ones with the flap of extra band. I will probably spend the winter detailing little things and making a few more. I just finished cutting the rough pieces for the sholder belt trim rings.

Patrick that is the question I have been trying to get answered. You can see in my pic that the temp sending unit is in that spot. I can move the temp unit to the other side and use that hole. I don't know what the implications of using the hole on the other side of the thermostat.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Here is an old pic (pre-trimmed hose clamps!) of the engine side of the heater hoses. I had to move the temp sending unit to the other side. It makes no difference to the ending unit. http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/Okiesnake/bypassHw.jpg

[pgermond]

<img src=images/icon_speech_ugh.gif border=0 width=23 height=15 alt=Insert Speech Icon: Ugh> Damn, am I glad I live in a climate where a heater isn't required. I have a hard enough time getting my big mits in to tight spots. With all those hoses, I would be flat out of luck!

Although it looks like you have done one fine job with your project.

Phil

427 Roadster, #4279436
Southern Automotive FE
Toploader

Roseville (N.Cal)

[Copper01]

Here's a shot of the manifold connection on a 427SO. The fitting is as original and is available from Finishline.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/Copper01/PA260014a.jpg


Here's a shot of the waterpump connection. It's just a 5/8" nipple x 1/2"NPT connector available in most parts stores.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/Copper01/PA260015a.jpg


Here's a shot of the water temp sensor. As you can see, I haven't got the wiring completed yet.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/Copper01/PA260019a.jpg


And last, here's a shot of the heater connections.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/Copper01/PA260018a.jpg


Hope this helps.


Ben
Unique 427
SA 427SO w/ Toploader
Guardsman Blue w/ White Stripes

[pbrown]

All small block setups I have seen have the sending unit on the drivers side. The supply side of the heater is attached to the intake just behind the water neck. The heater return line is the lower fitting on the water pump. There is a bypass hose between the upper pump fitting and the thermistat housing.

--Patrick

[GeorgiaSnake]

Thanks for the feed back guys. Patrick that is what I thought, thanks. I should finish my install this week. With any luck I'll have some better pictures for you Okie.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[lonnie]

I have a heater but never thought of putting it in. Car is plenty hot without it. My right foot gets real hot and the headers are taped but my foot boxes are bare fiberglass with a little insulation inside. On cool days I just open the vent holes and I get plenty of heat.
Lonnie

[Okiesnake]

Patrick or Randy,
Could you provide a pic of the way you've always seen the heater hooked up on a sb. In my ignorance, I hooked mine up the way I did. I works fine but I would like to see how it's supposed to be.

[GeorgiaSnake]

Okie I spent 2 hours today collecting what I thought I needed to finish the hook up but ooops. My manifold has some funky threaded holes or I'm dumber than I look. I was going to move the temp probe to the other side but discovered I need a different bushing than the one in the manifold. Then realized the hose connection I have is 3/8 npt x 5/8 barb. [B)]:(. I did find a neat 90 degree 5/8" hose to make the turn from verticle to horizontal.

I'll take all of the plugs and bushings with me tomorrow and try and figure out what I need or just do without a heater :) If yours works then it is right.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Randy,
Been there, done that - thinking that I could use the fittings that come with the heater kit on the manifold. Different thread size.

[pbrown]

The temp sensor should screw into the drivers side without any bushings. The hose fitting, on the passenger side, protrudes into the water flow about 1 1/2". I have a good photo of a recent project. It's on the home computer so I'll post it when I'm home in a couple of hours.

--Patrick

[pbrown]

BTW - Vintage Air sells a nice looking (polished) low profile 90 degree 5/8" barb to 1/2" NPT adapter.

--Patrick

[GeorgiaSnake]

Thanks I'll check out the 1/2 x 5/8". I started inatalling the temp probe on the drivers side but it didn't feel right I'll try again tomorrow.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[pbrown]

Here is the best photo I could find. The car is in storage right now.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/pbrown/unique_IMG_0703.jpg

--Patrick

[GeorgiaSnake]

Okie here are a few pics of my trial fit, still need to cut some and make sure I can access everything before I tighten the screws. I got the 90 hose to give me clearance over the fuel line and to offset the hose for easy valve cover removal.

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00506.JPG

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00507.JPG

http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/georgiasnake/DSC00508.JPG

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Looks good Randy. Your hooking into the manifold in the same place I did.

[GeorgiaSnake]

New problem here on the fittings. I got the heater hose worked out and went to install the water temp probe on the drivers side. Looks like a different thread in the manifold than the probe - damn ! Anybody run into this problem? The original hookup had a bushing but the hole on the other side is smaller.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Sorry the picture is a little out of focus. It has been over 2 years since I installed my temp probe. I can’t recall if the threaded sleeve that the temp probe fits into, came with the temp sending unit or if I got the sleeve from a local hardware store. I was surprised to see the connector that you used (that comes with the heater kit) to hook into the manifold. That connector had a different thread size than the threads on my manifold and I couldn’t use it.
http://www.uniquecobra.com/uploaded/okiesnake/PICT0097.JPG

[GeorgiaSnake]

Okie Thanks! The heater conection is a 1/2" npt x 5/8 barb. The temp probe was in a 1/2 x what I thought was 3/8 npt bushing. I took the plug out of the other side of the mainfold and it looked to be a 3/8 npt but the probe seems to be a different thread. It screws in but is loose and doesn't look like it will seal.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Okiesnake]

Now that I recall, I did have to re-tape (Teflon tape)it because I did get a slight the first time I started up the motor after hooking everything up.

[ToyCollector]

quote:Originally posted by GeorgiaSnake

...or I'm dumber than I look.

Oh the fun I could have with that. Nice bracket, wish I had known, I would have grabbed a chair and watched you work for once. ;)

[eliminator]

The adapters come with the sending unit if it's a Stewart-Warner.

Eliminator

[GeorgiaSnake]

Happy Hoildays - Hole man ;)

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[GeorgiaSnake]

I have the adapter for the right side (passenger) which is a 5/8 npt. The trouble is when I move it to the left side the hole is a 3/8 npt and the probe is slightly smaller. I need a 3/8 npt bushing the will accept the probe.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver

[Brent]

Or a drill and a pipe tap.

Brent

[Copper01]

I agree with Eliminator. My sensor is a Stewart Warner and it came with both adapters in the box.

Ben
Unique 427
SA 427SO w/ Toploader
Guardsman Blue w/ White Stripes

[GeorgiaSnake]

Guess I need to find the other bushing. A drill won't help - the hole is already 3/8' npt which is larger than the probe.

I may just hope for a short warm winter.

Randy

Unique 289 FIA
Southern Automotive 396
Team III 16's
Brilliant Silver